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Don weller

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Blind spot info system. Ford dealers won't program it for you, you're have to use forscan. It's going to get very expensive, very quickly, you're better off getting the Lariat if you want that tailgate.
I guess iam confused. I don't understand what has to be done to make a lightbar bar work . Why is blind spot info system involved with the operating of a lightbar?
 
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I guess iam confused. I don't understand what has to be done to make a lightbar bar work . Why is blind spot info system involved with the operating of a lightbar?
The BLIS sensor has been in the taillight since the 2015 F150 redesign. If you have to replace the taillights, they're expensive because of the sensors.
 
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Thanks for the information. If this could be a factory installation would it still be in that price range. I wouldn't think the difference between the standard tailgate on the XLT and the swap would be 2k.
No, but I don't think it's going to be a factory option!
 

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They are likely the same mounts, but you would need the taillights and the tailgate. The taillights have to be programmed because they have BLIS integrated.
Gloff you are right. I heard the tailgate size is different for whatever the hell reason. I can tell you for sure those taillights are expensive. My neighbor has a 2020 F350. He had a bird yes I said bird fly into his passenger side taillight. It broke the light. It was $1,800 to fix it. The lens, the light, the BLIS system had to be calibrated and of course let’s not forget the cost of the labor for all of that. And I Swear I told him it must have been a damn big bird. Jeff’s Reply… No Not Really….
 

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Gloff you are right. I heard the tailgate size is different for whatever the hell reason. I can tell you for sure those taillights are expensive. My neighbor has a 2020 F350. He had a bird yes I said bird fly into his passenger side taillight. It broke the light. It was $1,800 to fix it. The lens, the light, the BLIS system had to be calibrated and of course let’s not forget the cost of the labor for all of that. And I Swear I told him it must have been a damn big bird. Jeff’s Reply… No Not Really….
What I don't understand is if ford has been using taillights since 2015 with BLIS and the taillight mount as the Same size on all the models the only thing you should have to change is the tailgate to have the lightbar on the XLT, because they are using the same tailgate on the XLT that they used on the 2021 model the tailgates on the 2022 models are the same width as the 2021 models the only thing different is the design to except the light bar.
 

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What I don't understand is if ford has been using taillights since 2015 with BLIS and the taillight mount as the Same size on all the models the only thing you should have to change is the tailgate to have the lightbar on the XLT, because they are using the same tailgate on the XLT that they used on the 2021 model the tailgates on the 2022 models are the same width as the 2021 models the only thing different is the design to except the light bar.
I hear yah…. I am Also ordering the XLT with the extended battery range. I would like to either get the Leather Seats like in the Lariat or the Vinyl Seats like in the PRO. I heard I can’t do that either. I also like the rims on the PRO much better. (Just a personal preference). I talked to my dealer and they said I can’t do that either. Wondering if Gloff or you have any insight on that. Maybe Gloff can also explain all the advantages of ordering the Lariat. Does ordering the $20,000 more expensive model at least come with the extended range batteries as a standard feature and not a $10,000 option. And one last question. Maybe a stupid one (sorry). Is their anyway to put a 4 inch lift on there. Seems a little low.
 

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I hear yah…. I am Also ordering the XLT with the extended battery range. I would like to either get the Leather Seats like in the Lariat or the Vinyl Seats like in the PRO. I heard I can’t do that either. I also like the rims on the PRO much better. (Just a personal preference). I talked to my dealer and they said I can’t do that either. Wondering if Gloff or you have any insight on that. Maybe Gloff can also explain all the advantages of ordering the Lariat. Does ordering the $20,000 more expensive model at least come with the extended range batteries as a standard feature and not a $10,000 option. And one last question. Maybe a stupid one (sorry). Is their anyway to put a 4 inch lift on there. Seems a little low.
I also want that lightbar….Ford has been advertising at least in my area, we can now order vehicles the way we want them. Just like our fathers and grandfathers use to do. Let me make this clear….they are not advertising the Lightning. But I have seen the commercial about ordering your next vehicle the way you want them. Well that’s not exactly true. If you can’t order the vehicle with the light bar, Leather Seats and and the tires and rims the way you want then that commercial is not exactly true. Oh yah and one other thing. I really don’t want the glass rooftop or any moonroof. I never use them and personally don’t like them. I don’t think I can order a solid roof. If they are going to put a glass roof on them, then why not put those into solar roofs and charge the batteries that way? oh wait maybe that is the next $25,000 option in the next version of the Lightning.
 
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Don weller

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I also want that lightbar….Ford has been advertising at least in my area, we can now order vehicles the way we want them. Just like our fathers and grandfathers use to do. Let me make this clear….they are not advertising the Lightning. But I have seen the commercial about ordering your next vehicle the way you want them. Well that’s not exactly true. If you can’t order the vehicle with the light bar, Leather Seats and and the tires and rims the way you want then that commercial is not exactly true. Oh yah and one other thing. I really don’t want the glass rooftop or any moonroof. I never use them and personally don’t like them. I don’t think I can order a solid roof. If they are going to put a glass roof on them, then why not put those into solar roofs and charge the batteries that way? oh wait maybe that is the next $25,000 option in the next version of the Lightning.
The Lariat will the extended battery is 79,474 I don't know if you can install a lift kit but suspect you can
I hear yah…. I am Also ordering the XLT with the extended battery range. I would like to either get the Leather Seats like in the Lariat or the Vinyl Seats like in the PRO. I heard I can’t do that either. I also like the rims on the PRO much better. (Just a personal preference). I talked to my dealer and they said I can’t do that either. Wondering if Gloff or you have any insight on that. Maybe Gloff can also explain all the advantages of ordering the Lariat. Does ordering the $20,000 more expensive model at least come with the extended range batteries as a standard feature and not a $10,000 option. And one last question. Maybe a stupid one (sorry). Is their anyway to put a 4 inch lift on there. Seems a little low.
The Lariat has the extended battery at79,474 I don't know if you can install a lift kit but I expect you could.
 

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My problem is if i get the Lariat at $79,474 then i don't get the rebate if the bill passes. the rebate as it is written right now stops at $74,000 for trucks. i want to get as much on my truck as i can but if i order the Lariat at $67,474 and add the extended battery for $7,000 now i am at $74,474 and i lose all of this
  • Ford Co-Pilot Active 2.0 with BlueCruise hands-free highway driving
  • Phone-as-a-key
  • Trailer brake and hitch assist
  • 80-amp onboard power supply (capable of being a household generator in emergencies)
  • Lockable, partitioned fold-flat rear storage
  • Power tilt/telescoping steering column with memory controls
  • Heated second-row seats
  • Twin-panel moonroof
  • if these prices are right and the bill passes with dollar cap on trucks
 

WSM1258

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The Lariat will the extended battery is 79,474 I don't know if you can install a lift kit but suspect you can

The Lariat has the extended battery at79,474 I don't know if you can install a lift kit but I expect you could.
Hey Don…. Well then Gloff is probably right. By the time you add on the extended battery on the XLT and it sure does not sound like the tailgates are interchangeable (which I still don’t understand). We may not be able to even put a lightbar on the truck. Even if we can I don’t think it’s going to be a cheap proposition. And like I said from what I was told by my dealer I can’t get leather or vinyl seats in the XLT model. Which I really want. It’s so much easier to clean up with a dog. My dealer also told me that we can’t put a lift on the Lightning. Something to do with the electric motors by the wheels? Don’t ask me, I don’t understand it. I am hoping someone on here will be able to explain it to me.
 

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Hey Don…. Well then Gloff is probably right. By the time you add on the extended battery on the XLT and it sure does not sound like the tailgates are interchangeable (which I still don’t understand). We may not be able to even put a lightbar on the truck. Even if we can I don’t think it’s going to be a cheap proposition. And like I said from what I was told by my dealer I can’t get leather or vinyl seats in the XLT model. Which I really want. It’s so much easier to clean up with a dog. My dealer also told me that we can’t put a lift on the Lightning. Something to do with the electric motors by the wheels? Don’t ask me, I don’t understand it. I am hoping someone on here will be able to explain it to me.
I don't know but i think it is because the half shaft from the motor to the wheels will not stretch that far. But I am sure someone will come up with an aftermarket soon.
 
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WSM1258

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My problem is if i get the Lariat at $79,474 then i don't get the rebate if the bill passes. the rebate as it is written right now stops at $74,000 for trucks. i want to get as much on my truck as i can but if i order the Lariat at $67,474 and add the extended battery for $7,000 now i am at $74,474 and i lose all of this
  • Ford Co-Pilot Active 2.0 with BlueCruise hands-free highway driving
  • Phone-as-a-key
  • Trailer brake and hitch assist
  • 80-amp onboard power supply (capable of being a household generator in emergencies)
  • Lockable, partitioned fold-flat rear storage
  • Power tilt/telescoping steering column with memory controls
  • Heated second-row seats
  • Twin-panel moonroof
  • if these prices are right and the bill passes with dollar cap on trucks
You are right. I just read the article on the new proposed EV rebates. Thanks for the information. I am sure we can’t talk Ford into pricing them at $73,995. LOL….. fat chance.
 

frunk

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You are right. I just read the article on the new proposed EV rebates. Thanks for the information. I am sure we can’t talk Ford into pricing them at $73,995. LOL….. fat chance.
Maybe they will let me buy like an add on like a tonneau top separate from the truck
 
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